It's all about the car.

[lemon_says]

My dad is a Car Guy. He built half his cars. Back in the 60s he had a Cutlass that was so notorious that the cops recognized it a mile away, and so did all the other Car Guys who drag raced through Orlando back when it was still a backwater. My mom told me once that she and my dad were driving through the suburbs in the early 80s, in a green station wagon full of Brownies, and they just looked at each other and couldn't stop laughing over the "how did we get here" aspect of it all. I imagine he thought more than once about the MG when he was piloting a giant bubble-top van full of kids through town.

My high school boyfriend built his own car, a 280Z, out of parts and pieces of other ones. It was his pride and joy. Years later, I dated a drag racer who once rigged his souped-up Eclipse so it would start when I pushed what I called "the red candy-like button" (in a Ren voice, in case you get that reference), which was actually usually a nitrous button, but I couldn't press that in downtown traffic, you know.

I get loving a car. For a long time I felt like my car was tied to my identity--especially my purple pickup truck, which I loved dearly and got me through college and grad school and many road trips, including the one where we got married. I used to joke (until people got way too freaking touchy about it, even though everybody NOT in a little red hatchback knew what I meant) that I would never want a Civic because I didn't want to lose all my driving skills, or that I couldn't have a green minivan and still respect myself (probably because I'd be out blocking intersections somewhere). Even now I don't have a mom car. But the time has come when we must put away childish things like personal preference and just get a damn car that holds everybody.

There have been two main things on our minds around here lately: one is poor P trying to shoehorn some stairs onto this house working within the limitations that he has (we think he got it last night), like property lines and what can get in under a repair permit.

The other is the car.

We're going to need a third-row car. P thinks of this as being one of those nebulous, futuristic problems and says we'll address it "down the road." Sometimes my husband forgets that time continues to pass while he is planning. Also, he's not the one who has to wedge his hand down between two car seats to try to fasten Monster's booster seat four times a day. I dread having to do that in carpool line next year.

There are some reasons he doesn't want to address it. One is that he'd like the house done first. I get that, but...well, nothing has happened with the house either. Second, new cars are expensive. Even if you don't buy a NEW new car, it is expensive.

Honestly, I think the main reason is that he doesn't want to give up his Precious. He loves his Scion dearly. I like the Scion. It's a great little city car. But here's the issue: it will only hold 2 car seats. No big deal if he's not the one who needs to drive all the kids, right? What if something happens to the other car, or the other driver? What if we got stranded somewhere? Do we just pick a child to leave on the side of the road? My car will at least (legally and safely, if not comfortably) hold three car seats. Not so much the Scion. I understand where he's coming from; our last few cars have been for me to be the primary driver (bigger as we got more kids), so we'd sell his car, he'd get my car, and then I'd get the new car. This was the first one in a while that he got to pick on his own, to his specifications, and he loves it. I just wish it were possible to squeeeeeze one more seat in there so he could keep it, but I just don't think it's going to work. Besides, mine is closer to being paid off.

But no, I'm still not getting a minivan.

Comments

[mystech.livejournal.com]

Must I have all the answers... after-market roof rack on the Scion. You can fit a half dozen or more child car seats up there, at the very least.

[travellight.livejournal.com]

People who have minivans love them. Just don't get an Odyssey - no telling where you'll end up.

[cozzene.livejournal.com]

Mini-vans are the scourge of the earth.

Now, I'm not a huge-car fan, but I'm enamored with the Ford Flex. It has that boxy styling of the Scion xB, but a lot roomier with its added length. I test drove one and it handles very well. It's not a flex-fuel vehicle... there's been confusion on that with the name.

[themysteriousg.livejournal.com]

I need to figure out whether it's possible to slam a third car seat into Kevin's car so we can trade mine in. He HATES my car, as do I, and I think it will be me primarily doing pick ups and drop offs. We can always switch cars on those days that we need to trade jobs. It would be nice if the Mazda could hold three in a pinch.

[lolliejean.livejournal.com]

Here's a true confession:

I kinda love the Nissan Quest minivan. It's something about the way it's shaped that appeals to me. The hub made great fun of me when I proposed it while we were car shopping and then said he'd soup it up into a race van with custom paint and such so I tabled the idea.

I wound up with Valentine, the Ford Flex. It's got a retro station wagon vibe and I love it. It's got third row seats too that can face forward or backward. It's been out long enough that there may be some good used ones available out there.

[gnail-19.livejournal.com]

I can't make myself do the minivan thing either. My car was a great compromise in going from a coupe to a 4 door car. Even then it is a sports sedan. No way I can do a minivan. An SUV maybe.

[mrs--smith.livejournal.com]

When did your opinion of minivans change so drastically? It was just two years ago that you told me you knew you'd eventually have one when you had a third kiddo. And Pete told us on Monday that he was leaning heavily that way given what all you guys had to work with. Quite frankly, it's the best bet given everything you guys are trying to accomplish with size, space and finances. The Nissan Quest and Chrysler Town and Country are really quite nifty, Landon himself has been enamored of the Town and Country for several years.

Let Pete keep the Toaster, man. It just wouldn't be right to see him driving the Charger around town!

[heathrow.livejournal.com]

As a person who ended up with a minivan last year (using the passive voice on purpose - we were given it for free when my sister-in-law's father-in-law died, and both of them had brand newish Hondas), it's not the worst thing. Yeah, it's big. However, I can fit 4 kids in there and 2 adults and just get on with my day. (2002 Chrysler T&C)

Now, I wouldn't have picked this for my car, but I'll drive it til it's time to get something else. I used to care more about cars, but now that we're down to one income, they have slipped down on the list of things I care about. I like being able to remove seats willy nilly and carry things around as needed.

I know this won't change your mind as someone who Will Not Get a Minivan. However, they are generally cheaper than SUVs and more flexible.

[geobabe1.livejournal.com]

My sister used to have one of those green minivans, and...ugh. I do appreciate all the passengers one can carry, and I know lots of people who love theirs, but...ugh. We're not having any more kids, but would like to eventually get a vehicle that can accommodate more passengers, but like you, I really can't deal with the idea of a minivan.

[gratefulbambina.livejournal.com]

While I would prefer to be in a car than a mini van I had to step into a vehicle for 3 kids when we were unexpectantly pregnant with Francis. SUVs are top heavy so the chances of them flipping over is high and most don't have 3rd row seating anyways so that was out. I drove my MIL's mini van and it wasn't as dreadful as I thought it would be and for the price (which now you can get a really nice van for pretty cheap I was pretty upset when we were looking for Arnies car since everyone is looking for small cars) I was sold. Its alot nicer going on vacations with the extra space.

Only one of our cars holds 3 kids, though I'm looking at getting 3 skinny seats to sit in the back of the Civic so I'm hoping to be able to use that car for our weekend car. Have you looked at changing car seats instead of a new car? Maybe you can squeeze 3 seats back there maybe putting Anya in a seat that doesn't have to be buckled and unbuckled or something.

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[bogie66.livejournal.com]

Damn I lost all my driving SkillZ last week. :')

[blakdove.livejournal.com]

We need to get a second car because I can't commit to schlepping 2 kids to drop off and pick up R every day, and worry about being carless in an emergency (even if said emergency is a toddler who is driving me up a freakin wall and we need to get out of the house STAT). R is also not doing anything about it. Neither am I, because my head is full to bursting with stuff I need to get done in the next week or so, and, well, I gotta delegate somewhere. So here we are, carless.

And we'll probably end up with a minivan down the road somewhere. Not yet.